I had read the manifesto previously and this time around I was definately more skeptical, perhaps it was because I took the joke too literally this time. I sometimes feel I should have read a Lacan anthology before doing many of the readings we've done and this is probably that represents that the most.

Like Liana I was really intrigued by the citing of invertebrates and ferns (as fundamentally 'other' organisms?) as baroque. Given that her chapter is "an argument for taking pleasure in the confusion of boundaries and for the responsibility" in their construction." How can this fundamentally restructured cyber sex relate to the monolithic spectacle of baroque ideals (which were used to justify the monopoly on God which the Catholic Church aimed to have)? How can we avoid positing ferns as baroque as a monolithic perspective supporting evolutionary biology?